G&P U.S. Navy Mk.23 mod.0 (Stoner 63A)

G&P Mk.23 mod.0

Introduction

There are those rare moments in life where even the most practical among us has an emotional, even spiritual reaction to a thing.  To others, it is just another amalgamation of metal, wood or stone, but to those that are chosen, it speaks to them.  Some designs draw cult-like followings, though for all but a select few admirers, it is a purely vicarious relationship.  For instance, only six Shelby Daytona LeMans Coupes were ever made, with the latest to appear at auction fetching $7.25 Million.

The Stoner 63 is such a thing.  Rare.  Revolutionary.  A combination of form and function that speaks to some gun enthusiasts- especially those with a weakness for beautiful things largely lost to history.   At price tags circling $72,000, the remaining Stoner 63s are out of reach for most of us.  That makes the new G&P replica something worth waiting on pins and needles for, which is exactly what I did.

Real-Steel History

Stoner 63A

The story of the Stoner 63A has it all: a legendary 20th Century firearms designer, (alleged) government conspiracy, war, one of America’s most well-known clandestine forces, and ultimately, obscurity.  The Stoner’s story, regardless of where you begin, or how many details you include, is fascinating.

Long before California’s garages spawned silicon valley billionaires, they spawned firearms entrepreneurs.  In the early 1950s, George Sullivan, chief patent counsel for Lockheed Corporation, teamed with Paul Cleaveland and Eugene Stoner at ArmaLite, which began as a subsidiary of Fairchild Aircraft.  After some early success in designing niche firearms for the military, ArmaLite, and Stoner, shifted their focus to the Army’s biggest prize:  the contract to replace the M1 Garand.

AR10 Family tree: the Original ArmaLite AR-10.

The AR-10 was like nothing the military had ever seen:  it was so revolutionary, in fact, that the Army couldn’t bring themselves to award ArmaLite the contract, and the M1 was replaced by what came to be known as the M-14.  Many believe the Army’s tests were rigged, demanding the AR-10 fire ammunition for which it wasn’t designed.  Frustrated, ArmaLite sold the 5.56 version of the design, known as the AR-15, to Colt.  Stoner was a man so far ahead of his time that he ended up designing one of the 20th Century’s most iconic weapons too early, and for the wrong company!

Stoner left ArmaLite and joined Cadillage Gage Corp. and began another revolutionary design, eventually referred to as the Stoner 63.  The Stoner 63 was, in many ways, the evolution of the AR-10  weapons system.  Designed not just as a rifle, but a weapons platform with a suite of interchangeable parts for various missions, the Stoner 63 could be used as a carbine, battle rifle, light machine gun, or even a vehicle mounted machine gun.  One of the remarkable features of the rifle was its invertible receiver:  by turning the receiver over, the Stoner 63 could be converted from an assault rifle to a belt-fed light machine gun!

Stoner 63s Stoner 63s in both the the assault rifle and LMG configurations. Note the gas tube above the barrel in assualt rifle mode, and below it in LMG mode, a result of the receiver being inverted

The military was impressed, especially the Marine Corps and the Navy.  They requested a few minor changes to the design, including a move of the shell ejector from the right side of the rifle to the left while configured as an LMG, and a stainless steel gas tube.   Both changes were incorporated into the Stoner 63A.  Approximately 1600 Stoner 63As were produced and delivered, primarily to the Navy, where the rifle was designated Mk.23.  Unfortunately, the Army deemed the design too complicated for the average G.I.  In its role as primary procurer of small arms for all three branches at the time, they refused to order more.

Navy SEAL with Stoner 63A A U.S. Navy SEAL with a Stoner 63A in LMG configuration, Vietnam.

Meanwhile, the Stoner 63 had earned a reputation among elite soldiers as a versatile, dependable weapons system.  Unlike the direct impingement gas system of the AR-15, the Stoner 63A employed a piston system (similar to the AK-47) that many believed made the gun less susceptible to malfunction, especially in combat conditions.  The Stoner became a favored weapon of the Navy SEALs in Vietnam.

SEAL with stoner in Vietnamanother SEAL in Vietnam

The rifle’s reputation for quality and durability motivated the Vietcong to offer a $500 bounty for an operational Stoner 63A.  At the time, especially in Vietnam, $500 was a lot of money – more than five times the average Vietnamese annual salary!

The Stoner 63A hung around for a few years after Vietnam, until the introduction of the M249, when most of the remaining rifles were ordered destroyed.  Only a few Stoner 63As survive today.

Movie and T.V. Appearances

The Stoner 63 has made surprisingly few appearances on screen, despite the production of dozens of Vietnam films and T.V. shows and still more flashback sequences.  Odd, for instance, that none of Thomas Magnum’s Vietnam memories contained a Stoner, especially since Magnum was a Navy SEAL.  In fact, the Stoner 63 has made only one fictional appearance, good for a preposterously difficult trivia question:

Scott Bakula with Stoner 63A Noted macho-man Scott Bakula threatening the locals with his Stoner 63A in an episode of Quantum Leap

Yep, that’s Scott Bakula, with a Stoner 63A almost identical to the G&P replica discussed below.  Life is full of surprises, isn’t it?

The Stoner 63 has been featured in several video games of recent vintage, most notably Call of Duty: Black Ops.  Unfortunately, the producers of the game didn’t do their homework, and the rifle is depicted in assualt rifle configuration with the receiver inverted, which is inaccurate.  Another trivia tidbit.

The Replica

Inside the heavy cardboard box emblazoned with G&P’s logo, the Stoner 63A sits within custom-cut high density foam.

G&P Stoner 63A in box Most real guns never have it so good – the G&P Stoner 63A fresh in the box

The attention to detail and quality is exceptional.  I don’t even know anyone who’s seen a Stoner 63 in person, and a side-by-side comparison is out of the question, but this replica is so solid and substantial it is hard to believe it varies much from the real deal.  If I had to guess, based on the photographs of Stoner 63s I’ve seen, the paint/finish is the most notable difference.

Stoner 63A and M79 G&P Stoner 63A with CAW M79

The revolutionary nature of the Stoner 63 seems to have motivated G&P to create a revolutionary AEG.  Rather than simply drop a Version 2 gearbox and other M4 components into slightly different outer body, or do the same with SAW components, G&P developed a completely new support weapon design.  The box mag is constructed of plastic (as was its real-steel counterpart’s), with a metal frame that cradles the box and secures it to the receiver.  The frame is also removable, but removing it isn’t necessary to remove to change/refill the box mag, which holds 1200 bbs.

box mag The Stoner 63 box mag.

The feeder mechanism is powered by a 9 volt battery, and small fold-down doors provide access to both the battery and the main ammo compartment.

box mag doors The outer panel slides off to reveal the battery and bb doors.

The feeding mechanism snaps into place on top of the hopup.

hopup/feeder
Like the M249, the Stoner has a hinged top cover, but unlike the Classic Army or A&K SAW replicas, the top cover of the Stoner has to be opened to snap the feeder into the hopup.  That’s not a bad thing, though.  It’s a smoother installation than a SAW box mag.
Stoner 63A photo
G&P calls the gearbox a “modified Version 2.”  I’m not a gearbox tech, so I’m not really qualified to talk about all of the ways it has been modified.  The hopup is not your ordinary Version 2 hopup, and has more in common with the SAW hopup assembly.
The overall feel of the gun is incredibly solid.  Not only is there no wobble, it almost feels like the gun is one solid piece of metal, there is absolutely no play in it anywhere.  The front handguard and buttstock are the only plastic parts on the gun itself, and they are extremely sturdy.
The rear stock can accommodate a large battery, and comes wired with Dean’s plugs, which was a pleasant surprise.  What was not such a pleasant surprise was the hex head screws that secure the rubber buttpad and provide access to the battery.  I have a very bad feeling these will get stripped eventually, because the screws are far smaller than, for instance, the battery access screw on the SAW, which is solid steel and bulky.
The rifle weighs in at just over ten pounds.  For some perspective, the Classic Army SAW weighs around fifteen pounds, and a CYMA AK-74 weighs around eight.  The Stoner is about six inches shorter than an M249 MkII.
G&P Stoner 63A

Performance

I will preface my performance impressions by saying that I am a big believer in 8.4 volt batteries, and use them in all of my guns when I field them.  This obviously slows the rate of fire versus a 9.6 volt, or a higher voltage LiPo, but a wise teammate advised me that the higher rate of fire produced by these batteries doesn’t justify the increased stress they place on a gearbox.
With the 8.4, the Stoner has a very respectable rate of fire, though not quite the equal of the SAW.  It fires at roughly 380 fps out of the box, but every G&P should visit the chrono.  Their gearboxes are so well built that they often produce insane compression and ridiculous fps out of the box.  I once dropped a bone stock G&P V2 into an M4 build and it clocked in at over 500 fps.
In every respect other than rate of fire, the Stoner 63A outperforms the SAW.  It is more accurate.  It handles far better because it is lighter and more ergonomic.  The SAW’s primary weakness as a fieldable airsoft gun is the box mag, which can feel flimsy and bulky underneath the gun.  The Stoner has a much more rigid-feeling an smaller box mag, making the rifle easier to carry close to the body.
While it carries a few hundred less rounds than the SAW, the Stoner carries plenty of ammo for all but the most deranged and trigger happy airsofter.  Pack a little extra ammo (I’ve started carrying a large Ibuprofen bottle, which has an opening almost the ideal size for filling the box) and you’re all set.

Conclusion

Performance:  5/5

Quite simply, this is the best airsoft gun I’ve ever fielded.  It has no weaknesses out of the box.  None.

External Design:  4.5/5

The only knock on this rifle is that the finish does not appear to precisely match the finish of the real Stoner 63A, and G&P has not yet made a historically accurate flashhider.  Minor details.  The gun is beautiful.

Value: 5/5

It’s hard to label an airsoft replica with a $469 price tag as a value (not including shipping!), but this is the best airsoft gun on the planet.  Worth every penny.

Overall:  5/5

If there is a better combination of style, accuracy to the original, and performance in the airsoft world, I’ve never seen it.  Before handling this replica, I thought the Classic Army SAW was the best airsoft gun ever made, but the G&P Stoner 63A is markedly superior, placing it firmly in a class by itself.

1 Response to “G&P U.S. Navy Mk.23 mod.0 (Stoner 63A)”


  • Hi i just got my stoner and im trying to upgrade my spring and put in a tb barrel but I cant seem to open the gun up. I’ve noticed these pins that unscrew but only the one at the hinge of the door on top actually comes off. the other ones screw off too, but the other half that the screw, screws into is stuck in. i dont think ehobbyasia glues their gun parts, so I think im doing something wrong. please help thanks.

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